Hivemind: I want to make a printer that when it gets something it passes it through a script that will manipulate it and THEN print the resulting output (pdf) to the printer. I know this is doable with CUPs, but darned if I can find the right docs for how to define it...

@smitty yup, though I've seen where putting too much inductive load through the relay (even when already closed) damages the relay. Think dehumidifier, refrigerator, washing mahine, etc. Noramally you snag an "appliance" version, better relay, bob's your uncle.

Really all I want them for is power monitoring so the relay is a bit overkill but no one makes / sells what i want on that front

I will say, the proprietary firmware is BY FAR the most polished. Like lightyears ahead polished.

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Two of the vendors, I'm 99.8% sure, are using the same plug with different markings on the back (one silkscreen, one lasered). The other the specs differ a bit. Firmware on all 3 is different, but it's the same mcu in them all, esphome, proprietary, tasmota (what they ship out of the box)

The odd ball is LIKELY the best option (at least on paper) for appliances but it's a bit unknown, which is obnoxious

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Bought some more Smart Home Internet Thing plugs to see if I can get off of the "appliance" version of one I have now. So far I've tried asking 3 vendors how their plugs handle inductive loads.

- One didn't respond
- One responded eventually, after giving some data, "well that's sorted then" (except it absolutely wasn't)
- The last hand waved

@thunderbird @ewenmcneill Well thought I had, not seeing it but maybe the post is waiting in a moderation queue...

@thunderbird Can I request that unlocking the gpg/pgp key not be done at start-up and left unlocked/passkey accessible? Maybe I'm weird but I actively dislike that being in the master key store and unlocked the entire time the keyring is open. I'd much prefer the model similar to the way it was done with enigmail where the gpg/pgp key was VERY explicitly unlocked to use vs. having the password in the master store and effectively always available

@thunderbird @ewenmcneill Thank you! Posted my note there, hopefully I described the use case / reasoning sufficiently!

Hivemind: do I know anyone who's doing OSPFv3 on wireguard ptmp links? Trying to get this to work, and would love to see/compare someone's working setup

Quick question @thunderbird where's the best place to comment on some of the recent ui/ux changes? I've been banging my head on needing to find "reply all" under the drop down vs. "reply list" when the list needs to be included, but there's LOTS of e-mails outside of the list that need to stay on the thread. Fairly common situation on LKML for instance, and I'm not seeing a way to add an explicit "reply all" to the message header buttons

@calchan i am not sure if video of the event in question exists

@ariadne I had a hearty guffa, and yes I have seen that a bit too often and it kinda bothers me

Fun fact I was reminded of this evening: I have sung, as lead singer, at a wedding, with an honest to goodness real band standing behind me: 4'33

@jwildeboer Did you ever look into anything that would read the DMARC reports and spit out anything "interesting" from them?

@jwildeboer @webmink to be fair, just because the cert expired doesn't entirely make it *INHERENTLY* less secure, it's just past what the key was intended for

@thunderbird *KUDOS* to @thunderbird quick filter on 102 on my normal, and old, profile suddenly works again!

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Wheee apparently got @thunderbird 102 on my laptop aaannd..... First start-up my main account just didn't load, kinda freaked me out. Exit, come back in and it's there (whew). The visuals all changed which was expected but I'm cranky on those things I'll admit. However the fact the scrollbars all hide... again... is a problem. I know I had to hack the config at one point to keep them there and now I can' seem to find a way to keep them on screen and not hide. small and hiding scrollbars sucks

I am reminded: auto/low on my office heat pump does not move sufficient air to actually *COOL* my office. It's back on 'high' for the next like 2 minutes before a power savings event

Did some shoveling in the email mines and got the mail queue on vger proper down to under 1000, which is good. Average time of an email waiting to get into vger (this does not include processing on vger and subsequent bouncing back out) is under 2 minutes, with most instances being literally seconds.

Few more domains having issues, looks mostly like smaller e-mail hosts having low rate limits. I'll keep an eye on them and likely have to eject them.

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